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Dr. Paul's avatar

The first thing that comes to mind reading this is today’s cancel culture operating by the same principles. Only the dominance mechanics, rather than using physical, chimpanzee-like violence, uses the invisible violence of reputation destruction.

To wit, Dr Robert Galatzer-Levy of the Chicago Psychoanalytic Institute studied the Columbine Tragedy extensively, leading him to study how the Thalamus channels both physical pain pathways to the cortex to understand the meaning of pain but also emotional pathways joining it.

When “emotional pain” such as loss of self-esteem in dominance experiences occurs absent physical pain (physical violence being one source), the result is the cortex and our conscious understanding has us experience “an insult is no different from a punch to the face.”

Reputation being at the identity level sense of self, reputation destruction seems to be a “killing” equivalent, a psychologically murderous chimpanzee-like dominance act, while not physical like the actual chimpanzee hierarchies.

And if you look at Deborah Tannen’s work studying average behavior of boys vs girls when she says the worst thing that happens to girls is exclusion from groups but the worst thing that happens to boys is being “one upped” or defeated, placed lower in the hierarchy for “losing” it seems to have a place in this model.

Boys and men talk of “making a killing” or “killing the ball” in baseball or “killing it” with a successful work project- all expressions not of physical violence but of the instinct Barry and Seager have researched in males specifically, called “fighting and winning.”

At the instinct level which is felt at the deepest level of identity and “existing”, being excluded for girls and women or being “a loser” for boys and men in a hierarchy might feel like “dying” just a little, “thalamically” like reputation destruction both feels and cognitively processes to conscious life like “being killed” - words no different than a punch to the face, or a death blow if substantial enough.

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Dan's avatar

“the love of money is the root of all evil”, not “money is the root of all evil”

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