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The Great Feminization Hypothesis

Speaking with Louise Perry

Some topics covered:

  • Louise and I discuss Helen Andrews’ recent essay in Compact and her speech at NatCon

  • What happens when the search for truth becomes secondary to emotional reactions

  • The gender equality paradox

  • Most people readily accept that men in groups can behave badly in characteristic ways. But suggesting women in groups also have characteristic failure modes activates strong resistance

  • The worst excesses of male-coded workplace behavior—harassment, arrogance, chauvinism, brashness—have been stigmatized. But the worst excesses of female-coded behavior—ostracism, backbiting, emotional manipulation, and the HR-ification of workplace life—still remain

  • If you’re a disagreeable, contrarian woman, you might struggle in both hyper-masculine and hyper-feminine cultures, just in different ways. This suggests the problem isn’t simply about male versus female overrepresentation

  • The claim that masculine cultures are inherently truth-seeking doesn’t hold up empirically. But perhaps a more nuanced version of this idea is that for an institution to value truth-seeking above all else, male overrepresentation is necessary but far from sufficient

  • Maybe white males are ultimately at fault. Decades ago they supported feminism to get laid, women entered the work force, and subsequently remade professional life

  • Online interaction forecloses physical violence, so men too adopt more feminine forms of aggression—verbal, social, indirect. The medium itself may feminize behavior regardless of who’s using it

  • Louise points out that men seem more likely to join cancellations and pile-ons when the target is a woman, and it sometimes shades into stalking or sexual obsession

  • Differences between male and female serial killers

  • We discuss the idea that if bad people endorse a claim, that somehow invalidates the claim itself. But this is obviously fallacious reasoning—the truth value of a proposition is independent of who finds it appealing. Yet this guilt-by-association heuristic is psychologically powerful and hard to resist

  • Once a field crosses 50% female, it doesn’t stabilize—it continues shifting until men become a small minority

  • Men don’t win social approval by competing with women—beating them feels hollow or pathetic, losing to them feels humiliating. This may explain male withdrawal from feminizing fields

  • Being the wife of a male CEO carries high-status, less so for being the husband of a female CEO

  • Louise points out that having unrelated men and women in constant competition with each other is actually quite novel in human history. Traditional societies mediated these interactions through elaborate social conventions. We’ve largely abandoned those conventions without replacing them with anything, which may explain why mixed-sex workplaces generate so much friction and confusion

  • Employers have strong economic incentives to tap the full talent pool. If women can perform well in many fields (and the IQ data suggest they can), then excluding them is economically irrational. Market forces push toward gender integration regardless of cultural preferences

  • If men generally can’t spot covert feminine aggression as reliably as women can, then policing these behaviors requires women in leadership roles who are willing to do it

  • Careerism as an unconscious reproductive interference strategy (edit: meant to say “reproductive suppression”)

  • Evolutionary mismatch hypothesis for status and fertility

  • To what extent do speaker characteristics—gender, appearance, accent, and demeanor—influence our perceptions of a claim’s credibility or threat level?

  • Several years ago a female professor at Cornell (NB: In the discussion I mistakenly said this took place at Stanford) suggested to a female student to dress more modestly, and in protest the student stripped off her clothes during a class presentation. Louise and I discuss whether this could have occurred at an all-women’s college. Mixed-sex contexts seem to activate assumptions about patriarchal forces, even if the only people involved in a given interaction are women. Moreover, there may be an unconscious desire to reveal more skin in a mixed-sex environment under the guise of challenging sexism, a more socially acceptable motive

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